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Old 01-06-12, 03:24 PM  
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According to YJ these are considered inversion poses:

http://www.yogajournal.com/poses/fin...ies/inversions

Can anyone think of anymore?
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Old 01-06-12, 03:24 PM  
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I am very near-sighted, and want to clarify that this increases the risk for retinal detachment - but the overall risk remains quite low.

The average risk of retinal detachment for a 60 year old is 0.6%; the risk increases to 2.4% for those who are very near-sighted. (So, yes, much greater risk than the average person, but 2.4% is not an overall high risk, imho.)

Here is a link to a good online source for more info - it gives specifics in terms of risk factors, causes, symptoms, etc., based on scientific research studies: Medicinenet Retinal Detachment

It is always good to be cautious, and to know one's body well! And, of course, talk to your doctor (or ophthalmologist) if concerned.
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Old 01-06-12, 03:29 PM  
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There is much validity in this article but I hope it doesn't deter people from practicing yoga. I agree with Susan wholeheartedly that Westerners approach yoga too goal oriented and risk injury.

Practicing yoga is just that; practicing. In my own personal yoga journey, I have studied and continue to study immensely the yoga postures, their own anatomy as well as my own to see what my limits and modifications should be. I work with the foundational postures before moving onto anything of more complexity and constantly hone my awareness of what each posture is intended to achieve.

I personally, strongly feel that yoga genuinely needs careful attention because it's not merely a form of fitness.
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Old 01-06-12, 03:36 PM  
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According to YJ these are considered inversion poses:

http://www.yogajournal.com/poses/fin...ies/inversions

Can anyone think of anymore?
So, a forward bend isn't considered an inversion pose? for purposes of thinking about the risks --
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Old 01-06-12, 03:58 PM  
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My understanding of inversion poses is that your feet are above your head (in other words, shoulderstand, headstand, handstand, plow.) Downward dog or forward bend are not full inversions, as your feet are on the floor.

Someone more knowledgeable than me about yoga might say otherwise, though; listen to them, I'm no expert.

My retinal specialist is the one who warned me about inversions (he's an athlete.)

I don't think the risk of any injury doing yoga is above 2.5% or so, really, although I'm not sure how you quantify those things. As with anything, know your own body. I only mention retinal detachment because it's not like some other potential injuries, where you might KNOW you are pushing too hard, you might feel aches and pains after a workout, you might feel intense discomfort, so you have that physical cue, that warning, to say "danger!"

Retinal detachments come out of the blue.

As far as "severely nearsighted" goes, my lens implants were -14.25 and - 14.5.... But I think isn't anything over -8 considered severe? I know my ophthalmologist (who is different from my retinal specialist, sheesh, how many people does it take to take care of two eyeballs??) won't do lasik on anyone over -7 or -8.

I have to run at the moment but I am curious now and might google this up later. If so, I will report back.
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Old 01-06-12, 04:02 PM  
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I actually re-injured my knee with yoga, so I know it's possible. At the same time, I also know that without yoga done mindfully, I am so much worse off. My sciatic nerve goes wonky and I can barely walk.

I think yoga is like everything else we do - capable of injury, worthy of respect and definitely worth doing if it's done with body awareness.
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Old 01-06-12, 04:05 PM  
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There is much validity in this article but I hope it doesn't deter people from practicing yoga...Westerners approach yoga too goal oriented and risk injury.
You could replace the word "yoga" in that statement with kettlebells, Crossfit, Zumba, running or practically any other fitness craze. People go overboard (either wanting instant results or loving it so much that they don't recover or progress properly) and get injured, combined with instructors who only want to jump on the gravy train and never knew much about teaching people to begin with.
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Old 01-06-12, 04:09 PM  
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Jill would naturally link to the article -- Glenn Black is her teacher.

While I think we should all be more conscious about avoiding injury, I think there was a definite skew in this article. There are some styles of yoga that are more about pushing than others and some are more about alignment and body integrity. And there are students that gravitate along the whole spectrum. I did sense a bit of scare tactic, a bit of sensationalism. Curious about the book, but this was not the greatest first impression for me.

And I've gotten my most serious injuries walking on sidewalks and down stairs. Hey, I've even hurt myself in my sleep.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't speak up if a teacher is asking us to exceed our limits. And this doesn't mean we shouldn't try to be aware of those limits. The student-teacher equation is a relationship, a partnership. It's an interaction, not a servile situation. Or shouldn't be.

If anyone feels they have to give up their autonomy by walking into a class, best not to go in the door.
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Old 01-06-12, 04:13 PM  
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Here is a quote from the link I posted above (MedicineNet):

"High myopia (greater than 5 or 6 diopters of nearsightedness) increases the risk of a retinal detachment. In fact, the risk increases to 2.4% as compared to a 0.06% risk for a normal eye at 60 years of age. (Diopters are units of measurement that indicate the power of the lens to focus rays of light.)"
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My understanding of inversion poses is that your feet are above your head (in other words, shoulderstand, headstand, handstand, plow.) Downward dog or forward bend are not full inversions, as your feet are on the floor.
Some yoga teachers will classify downward dog as an inversion, some won't. I wouldn't though.

Retinal issues definitely qualifies as contra-indicated for full inversions, as do neck issues and high blood pressure.
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