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Old 01-13-05, 08:12 PM  
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Fast 10 First Impressions

I purchased the Fast 10 kit for husband for Christmas. He completed the P90X program and loved it (and got really cut in the process and lost 12 lbs of fat and gained 5 lbs of muscle!). But he travels a lot so knew this program would be good for him.

I ordered it in November with a 15% discount and use ebates. I finally got around to doing all the workouts this week.

The Package

The basic package comes with one maroon b-line band, the door attachment and safety strap, and a strop for putting around your waist or leg for some of the moves. The b-line band was the perfect resistance for me. My husband lifts much heavier so I got him a set of the heaviest b-line bands I could. The 2 DVDS (I got the extended package) each have several workouts on them.

The basic DVD has Total Body, Focus: Chest and Back, Focus: Bicep, Triceps, Shoulder, and Flexibility. The second DVD has Fat Burner, Sports Cardio, and Focus: Butt, Thigh, Abs.

Each workout has 10 moves. The focus workouts and Total Body are all a little over 10 minutes. The Sports Cardio is 20 minutes and the Fat Burner is 12 minutes. The package also comes with a book and cards explaining all the exercises.

The B-Line Bands

Just wanted to mention a word on these – I love the b-line bands. I think the quality is excellent and the handles make the normal wrist issues I have with bands go away. Other bands aren’t nearly as versatile. They are pricey but IMHO worth it. I am one that likes band resistance because I think it gives a different type of training than weights. I someday would like to try to do P90X with bands.

The Cons

I wanted to start with the cons because one of them is big. The Flexibility workout DVD freezes in the middle and from other VFer’s experience, Beach Body has done nothing to fix it. They will send you a new DVD but it will have the same problem on it (has anyone gotten one that works?). My freezes as well and I haven’t even called BB because I don’t want to bother. The only thing I was able to do was to fast forward to the next second (I did that section using the cards that come with the workouts).

The next con: the price – these are very expensive for what you get. Even with the discount, I paid around $90 for the set and the extra b-line bands (which are expensive). And given the defects, the price is way too high!


The Pros

As someone who used to work and train in a gym, there is very little I miss. However, I do miss the pulley system the large machines provided and I have not been able to duplicate that system. The Fast 10 system does duplicate the pulley system!

I found the attachments easy to use and would work well in a hotel room but also at home. The moves done in all the workouts are classic BB – simple yet effective. No choreography here. Just simple effective moves -

The moves are tough too. I was sweating each time. And the resistance from the bands is enough to give a training effect.

The workouts can be repeated for more of a workout or combined which I liked.

I travel a lot and I will start using these workouts. My husband goes to Japan where there are very few gyms and he works long hours. These workouts are perfect to maintain your fitness during busy times in your life.

The butt/hip workout is very much like using pulleys at the gym as is some of the chest and back work. The cardio moves use a belt attached to the band attached to the door so you have resistance. It is very tough!

Michael George is a solid instructor and shows/teaches good form from what I saw.

As you can tell – I love these workouts and I love the b-line bands but the cons will probably rule out this set for many VFers. If they fix the DVD freezing, I would recommend this workout if you need something quick like this. I could almost justify the price because the band system with the door attachments are very useful and simulate a gym pulley system.
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Old 01-13-05, 08:25 PM  
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Chris, I'm glad you like the workouts.

In all my correspondence with Amber Otto, there was no acknowledgement that there was a problem. I lost count of how many DVDs they sent, and ALL of them had the same glitch.

I don't expect that they have done anything. Even if they do make a new batch, they still have to get rid of the old ones. I sold mine, (telling the buyer about the glitch, of course).
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Old 01-14-05, 05:12 AM  
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I just did these yesterday - or at least, the Sports Cardio section and the Flexibility section - in anticipation for a business trip next week. I think these are great "Road Warrior" workouts and will be great to take along while travelling (as long as there is no possibility that someone will ever see me running, attached to a door, with that cardio belt on!!!). However, my Flexibility workout freezes in numerous places just like yours does. I will be contacting Amber about this. Sending us another one with the same problem is no solution! I'll keep you posted about what happens.
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Old 01-14-05, 06:23 AM  
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KP and Alta,

This is a very frustrating situation with the freezing. As a consumer I feel helpless. After reading Alta's situation, it was like they didn't even look at the DVDs to see if they indeed were freezing. They just kept sending her a replacement. They sent Alta at least 2 replacements maybe more.

KP - The door running does look funny - but it is tough. I really work up a sweat. It definitely is a Road Warrior set!
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Old 01-14-05, 09:40 AM  
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I just acquired this set from a swap on another board. My DVD's work fine, I previewed them last week and just now watched the Flexibility program again and there are no glitches in mine. Perhaps the problem is fixed now?

It looks like a great program. There are lots of ways you could use this set and the flashcard idea is brilliant. I like Michael George. I can't wait to try out the belt. Can you imagine the looks from the neighbors if you tied yourself to a tree and did the running outside?

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Old 01-14-05, 10:32 AM  
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Mine don't have any glitches, either. However, my order took a very long time, so I did a live chat with a Beachbody rep (Steve maybe?)

He told me that there WAS a problem with the first batch, and that the delay with my order was because they were waiting to fulfill it with the second batch. At the time, I thought he was just glad handing me but evidently not.
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Old 01-14-05, 12:53 PM  
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Michelle and Lorey -

Thanks so much for this information. I think I will contact BB and I'll report back what happens.
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Old 01-14-05, 01:09 PM  
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I just wanted to chime in and say mine has that glitch as well. The flexibility workout just freezes.... on the first DVD I had, I could fast forward, but lost a good minute or so of the program. On the second one, it just freezes. Period. Can't go back, forward, or to the menu. It's ridiculous. I just received an e-mail from Amber regarding this second faulty DVD, and she said that at Beachbody, they have never experienced this problem, and it must be my DVD player! I have 2 DVD players (2 different brands) and 3 computers that play DVDs (3 different brands) in my house (Yes, we are spoiled). It does the same thing on all five. And, as I want the stretch workout, and paid a lot of money for these, I'm probably going to return these and buy myself some DVDs that work

My big concern now though is being credited the money for them. I was told I could return them, but returning them and getting my money back are two very different things.

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Old 01-14-05, 01:20 PM  
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Sara, I got tired of being told it was me. I finally told Amber to stop sending me DVDs and I sent all the ones she sent back.

It made me not want to do the workouts, so I sold the DVDs and materials. I like the belt thingie, so I kept that, the band and the door attachment.

Amber never offered any kind of refund or or credit anything. She had emailed WWWendy that she would get back to her after their investigations. She never did.

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Old 01-14-05, 01:40 PM  
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Hi Alta, I bought the two dvds from you. without the equipment . - my fault for sure.

In any event, anybody knows where I can find the door attachment and the other equipment needed? I do like the system but unfortunately, "as is" (only dvds) I cannot really use it. (I have the b-lines though)

thanks in advance if anybody who knows where to look for affordable solutions - I do not want to spend more than the cost of a new set.

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